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"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
12/09/2016 at 20:05 • Filed to: gto, pontiac, clutch, fuck

So my clutch was feeling like it was going the other day. I had one of my GM techs go with me on a test drive and he agreed with me that it was on its way out. So I ordered the LS7 clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and GTO pilot bearing to get replaced. This was a few days ago and my tech finally got to it. And there was more wrong...

A clutch plate spring broke and wore down

Ruined Flywheel

Flywheel bolts all rounded off

Look at that mirror

Also the center support bearing

There was no rubber in here.... I guess it is time to go 1 piece since the flex couplers are all cracked too

Look at that

The rear main is also going out. If you look closely the pilot bearing decided to stop being a bearing. there are no needles in there at all. Which mean the input shaft is literally shaped like a hour glass. So that needed to be replaced. The T56 requires the entire trans to be disassembled from the rear. The input shaft is literally the last thing to be replaced. I am so worried that there is more damage inside. I can’t afford the clutch job to begin with. How the fuck am i going to get back on the road.... Fuck, this is the third holiday season that has been ruined by BS. And people ask why I am a grinch during the holidays.

DISCUSSION (29)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 20:18

But do you have a new jackknife?

LongbowMkII > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 20:21

That sucks man. Always a terrible fear to find more than you suspected.

Urambo Tauro > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 20:25

Is there a way to re-sleeve the input shaft without tearing it apart?

CaptDale - is secretly British > Urambo Tauro
12/09/2016 at 20:32

Nope, I could take it out and have it welded and recut, but it has to be taken out.

CaptDale - is secretly British > LongbowMkII
12/09/2016 at 20:32

Yeah seriously

CaptDale - is secretly British > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/09/2016 at 20:32

Huh?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 20:36

Didn’t you ask me for a knife I was re-purposing two weeks ago, or is there another Captain Dale?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 20:36

I could be confused; wouldn’t be the first time...

My bird IS the word > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 20:39

How does something like this even happen? Damn that is a failure.

Justino6969 > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 21:01

At least you’re finding out now rather than later when more stuff could break. Sorry about the cost of parts and stuff. Good luck!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 22:30

Well it sounds like it’s time to sell some body parts and a few pints of blood...

BeaterGT > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 22:37

At least be glad you got some warning the clutch was going, and didn’t leave you stranded! I had to start my Z28 in first and rev match to get through the gears on a beaten up T56. The LGT was in limp mode, could barely drive it. Not sure where you live but may be worth looking into a Tick Performance T56 rebuild. Also what’s the LS7 clutch offer opposed to OEM?

Decay buys too many beaters > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/09/2016 at 23:19

Seen worse on the clutch.

Kinja'd!!!

Pilot too. I just slammed my input shaft back in after replacingthe bearing.

Kinja'd!!!

Everything else, damn dude.

RacinBob > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/10/2016 at 01:03

So is this another contribution to GM Crap? http://oppositelock.kinja.com/gm-crap-1789403699

What if you just replaced the parts you have and see what happens? The worst outcome is that it fails worse and you can always install a salvage transmission....

If you don’t have the $$, is that so bad?

CaptDale - is secretly British > RacinBob
12/10/2016 at 10:29

No I love GM!! I think this is mostly previous owner abuse showing up now.

No If I don’t fix everything, the same parts will fail again and quicker since they already have advanced wear. That means replacing everything I’d be replacing now again.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Decay buys too many beaters
12/10/2016 at 10:31

Look harder at my pilot bearing, its actually supposed to look like this

Kinja'd!!!

There is no bearing left in mine like at all.

CaptDale - is secretly British > BeaterGT
12/10/2016 at 10:34

Oh fuck, that’d be nice, but $2,000 more for tranny work isn’t something I can do. The LS7 clutch and housing offer a slightly higher HP/TQ rating than the GTO’s parts and since they are the same engine, basically, they fit. It is the most cost effective clutch upgrade for mildly modified vehicle before needing a heavier duty aftermarket clutch like the Monster clutches.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
12/10/2016 at 10:35

You know anyone buying kidneys?

CaptDale - is secretly British > My bird IS the word
12/10/2016 at 10:36

Mixture of abuse, wear and tear, and shoddy design. Stupid 2 piece shaft.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/10/2016 at 10:37

Yes lol that was me. I was so frustrated and such last night I read Jackknife and though like a truck jackknifing.... So yes there is an upside.

Decay buys too many beaters > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/10/2016 at 11:30

Oh wow O.o

Yep that’s pretty bad!

CaptDale - is secretly British > Decay buys too many beaters
12/10/2016 at 11:33

SERIOUSLY

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/10/2016 at 13:13

Did you notice any vibration on the highway with you center carrier bushing shot like that? I was chasing a vibration on mine (2004 GTO, T56) and it has been narrowed down to that bushing. I have the new part to replace it (don’t have to get a new ds, despite GM calling it a non-serviceable part), just haven’t gotten around to it.

Also, I’m at 138k miles and drove year-round in MN. What’s your car like?

CaptDale - is secretly British > jdrgoat - Ponticrack?
12/10/2016 at 13:21

I started feeling something a while back, but it was off and on and then I thought, well maybe it’s just shitty roads, but it was getting worse, so I think all that was the carrier, but when I looked before, it looked ok, but I think that I missed it.

Mines an ‘06 T56 and I have 45,000 miles on it only.... So yeah I don’t know whats up with it. I got it at 1ok, but I think the previous owner must have beaten her hard those first 10. I have been trying my best to make her perfect and faster, but it is alway break here, broke there, and empty wallet all the time.

Yeah GM does weird stuff that they don’t service separately. It’s odd to see it working for a Dealer in parts.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/10/2016 at 14:23

I’m sure The Donald could hook you up...

CaptDale - is secretly British > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
12/10/2016 at 14:29

Him, maybe I should tweet him.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/10/2016 at 19:03

I’m glad it arrived. Merry Christmas, if that’s your thing.

Kinja'd!!!

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > CaptDale - is secretly British
12/11/2016 at 15:42

I thought I was the second owner when I bought mine at 33k miles, but apparently there were two before me. I think she also got ridden very hard (rev limiter was set at 6800rpm for example). I’ve been pretty darn lucky, though.

I think that for a lot of the rubber stuff, they degrade over time regardless of miles.

It was a little shocking to see that much driveshaft movement and think of how fast I’ve gone when it was (probably already) like that. As long as you’re in there, it would be a good time to replace the diff mount bushing, too. That’s on my list, sitting in a box. I’m guessing the rear springs are sagging, too?

CaptDale - is secretly British > jdrgoat - Ponticrack?
12/12/2016 at 13:29

Yeah, previous owners suck. I wish I could have bought this car new..

I think I will do that. No, someone put lowering springs so I think they are ok, but too low for my tastes. Someday I will get adjustable coilovers.